Maison Margiela By the Fireplace vs Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille, which one for cold evenings?
TL;DRBy the Fireplace = smoke-and-marshmallow campfire scent. lighter, more daytime, romantic. Tobacco Vanille = dense pipe-tobacco vanilla. heavier, more evening, much more presence. as a single cold bottle: TV for evenings, BTF for daytime 馃敟
i wanna commit to one cold-weather signature for the rest of the season and im stuck between two.
Maison Margiela Replica By the Fireplace, ~130 EUR for 100ml. clove, chestnut, vanilla, guaiac wood, peru balsam, juniper. the campfire and roasted nuts scent.
Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille, ~270 EUR for 50ml. tobacco leaf, spice, cocoa, dry fruit, wood, vanilla, tonka. the old library and pipe smoke scent.
i love both. cant afford both rn. if u had to pick one for the next 4 months of northern winter as your single warm-evening bottle, which one and why? 馃
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Sorted by accepted, then votesboth are well-made, both deserve their reputation. picking between them as a single winter bottle comes down to one question: do u wear most of your fragrances in daytime or in evenings?
if daytime-heavy: By the Fireplace. clove + juniper top has a brightness that survives walking outside in cold air. dry-down is comforting without becoming sleepy.
if evening-heavy: Tobacco Vanille. composition is unapologetically heavy. rewards a slow evening. doesnt work as well at 9am.
for a helsinki winter where most of your social life is probably evenings (weather, light), id lean Tobacco Vanille. for a helsinki winter where u spend most of your scented hours commuting + walking to lunch, id lean By the Fireplace.
one financial note: Tobacco Vanille at 270 EUR for 50ml is significantly more expensive per ml than By the Fireplace. if ur unsure, By the Fireplace is the rational hedge. u can always buy Tobacco Vanille later if u wear By the Fireplace fifty times and feel something is missing.
stockholm vote: ive worn both extensively. theyre not really the same fragrance and the choice depends on what u actually want a winter evening to feel like.
By the Fireplace is light. romantic. a sunday afternoon at someones parents cabin. the smoky guaiac is balanced by a sweet chestnut-vanilla heart.
Tobacco Vanille is dense. luxurious. a wood-paneled bar with leather chairs. the vanilla is so much heavier and the tobacco anchors it.
for a single winter bottle, id actually pick By the Fireplace, cuz it works in more contexts. Tobacco Vanille is gorgeous but its a context-specific fragrance. By the Fireplace can come to lunch with u 馃憣
layering note: By the Fireplace pairs beautifully with a small spritz of a leather fragrance like Tuscan Leather on cold evenings, which gets u halfway to a Tobacco Vanille-style densification at a fraction of the cost 馃敟
that trick has saved me from buying Tobacco Vanille three times.
composition note. By the Fireplace's smoky character comes mostly from guaiac wood and a synthetic smoky woody amber. Tobacco Vanille's depth comes from a dense tobacco absolute + a vanilla and tonka base, with dried fruit accord adding the prune-cocoa quality.
the materials are different categories of cost. Tobacco Vanille's price reflects the tobacco absolute and vanilla concentration. By the Fireplace's price reflects modern synthetic woody ambers used cleverly. both achieve a smoky-sweet effect, but Tobacco Vanille is reading u a richer ingredient list.
thats part of why retroreviewers recommendation makes sense: if your priority is the experience of a luxurious, evening-only fragrance, Tobacco Vanille gives u something By the Fireplace cant match. if your priority is everyday wearability, By the Fireplace wins on flexibility 馃憣
quietly disagreeing with the framing that these are equivalents.
Tobacco Vanille is an icon. By the Fireplace is a really good interpretation of a similar mood at a third of the price per ml. theyre not in the same league of perfumery, even if both are nice to wear.
if money is a factor, get By the Fireplace and stop. if money is not a factor, ull probably want Tobacco Vanille within the year.
office reality check on Tobacco Vanille: its too much for most office contexts. the vanilla-tobacco cloud lingers. id not wear it before 5pm in a meeting-heavy week 馃拃
By the Fireplace can be worn before 5 if u r restrained with sprays.
compromise route: a 5ml decant of Tobacco Vanille (~25 EUR via reputable splitters) + a 100ml of By the Fireplace at 130 EUR. total ~155 EUR.
u get the everyday + the evening. u spend less than half the cost of a Tobacco Vanille bottle. u can buy a bottle later if u genuinely run through the decant.
original asker. took alex's compromise. 100ml By the Fireplace + a 5ml Tobacco Vanille decant. wore both through january + february.
honest result: i reached for By the Fireplace probably four times for every once i reached for Tobacco Vanille. decant is still half full. wont be buying a Tobacco Vanille bottle this year.
best two-bottle move for a winter season ive made 馃敟
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